yeah but thats where u make the money :P.. for example 5 people in this pot was BB with A348 (none suited) i check and flop is 872 so i have the nut low, i check 4 people bet/call 12K (final table at torny of 800) . So i flat call, turn is a 3 so i have the nut low and 2 pair, i bet pot and everyone (all other 4 and me) go allin, i had 110K before, i won all hi/lo in all sidepots lol. I end up with 400K with 5 ppl left, big stack with 100k and others with 50k...... so take them for what they are worth