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Old 03-03-2006, 05:28 AM   #1
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Default A couple of Gus-ish hands

Prior to playing yesterday, i spent about an hour reading a strategy guide that advocated an approach a bit different from the Harringtonian solid style. It basically said to be very loose pre-flop in position and be extremely aggresive post-flop.

This style doesn't come naturally to me - but I decided to give it a go in the FullTilt freeroll.

Here are a couple of hands that illustrate the pros of this strat. (To fully comply with this line I laid down AQ and KJ preflop almost everytime. Those hands get you raped more than they win according to this....) anyway....


Hand 1.

This is literally the third hand of the tournament. There are so many limpers - I decide the deck must be completely drained on high cards and I have a better than average shot at nailing something well disguised with my extremely weak holding...my crystal ball was spot on

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $15/$30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1500
UTG+1: $2070
MP1: $1020
Hero: $1485
MP3: $900
CO: $1350
Button: $1455
SB: $2220
BB: $1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with
UTG calls $30, UTG+1 calls $30, MP1 calls $30, Hero calls $30, MP3 folds, CO calls $30, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($195, 6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $120, CO raises to $240, 4 folds, Hero raises all-in $1455, CO calls all-in $1080.
Uncalled bets: $135 returned to Hero.

Turn: ($2835, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $2835)


River: ($2835, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $2835)


Results:
Final pot: $2835
Hero showed 2h 4h
CO showed Ac 3s

Hand 2.
I decided to attack with no mercy when I smelled weakness post-flop. I am aware that this leaves me wide open to getting check-raised - but hopefully the times I pick up the pot will make up for it:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $20/$40
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with
5 folds, CO calls $40, Button calls $40, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($140, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $40, Hero calls $40, CO folds.

Turn: ($220, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero raises to $200, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $160 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $300


Hand 3.

Here the style back-fires a bit. I donk it up thinking my middle pair is actually good. Later I realize that this chick limps everything, even KK in late position pre-flop...hence the wrong read on my part:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $25/$50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1320
UTG+1: $2105
MP1: $2990
MP2: $2040
MP3: $4005
CO: $1380
Hero: $2855
SB: $1090
BB: $2463

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with
3 folds, MP2 calls $50, MP3 calls $50, CO folds, Hero raises to $275, 2 folds, MP2 calls $225, MP3 calls $225.

Flop: ($900, 3 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 bets $200, Hero raises to $400, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $200.

Turn: ($1700, 2 players)
MP3 bets $650, Hero calls $650.

River: ($3000, 2 players)
MP3 bets $700, Hero calls $700.

Results:
Final pot: $4400
MP3 showed Ad Kc
Hero mucks 4d 3d


...more hands later...
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:38 AM   #2
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Hand 4.
Who is more likely to have a four, a caller in middle position or the innocent little man in the blind

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $50/$100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3660
UTG+1: $1480
MP1: $735
MP2: $2280
MP3: $1830
CO: $6282
Button: $2838
SB: $980
Hero: $7260

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with
4 folds, MP3 calls $100, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($250, 2 players)
Hero bets $200, MP3 folds.
Uncalled bets: $200 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $250

Hand 5
Basically the same thing again...it is impossible to call the raise if you don't actually have a seven - and if he does I have a (albeit long) shot at a straight....

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $50/$100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4460
UTG+1: $5215
MP1: $585
MP2: $2530
MP3: $2410
CO: $6132
Button: $3038
SB: $830
Hero: $7360

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with
UTG calls $100, 7 folds, 7 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($250, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $100, Hero raises to $550, UTG folds.
Uncalled bets: $450 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $450


Hand 6.
A non-Harringtonian steal

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $50/$100
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with
5 folds, Hero raises to $300, 3 folds.
Uncalled bets: $200 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $250
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:44 AM   #3
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Hand 7.
I normally wouldn't call a raise with T 8, but I have odds and a perfect ricky hand, and the small raise is weird..I was thinking either AA or QJo....all is well that ends well. Thank you " I'll go broke with TPTK"-guy!

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $100/$200
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7580
UTG+1: $2420
MP1: $55
MP2: $6620
MP3: $5210
CO: $5292
Button: $7178
SB: $5823
Hero: $4760

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $200, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $400, 3 folds, Hero calls $200, UTG+1 calls $200.

Flop: ($1300, 3 players)
Hero bets $800, UTG+1 folds, MP3 raises to $3700, Hero raises all-in $4360, MP3 calls $660.

Turn: ($10020, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10020)


River: ($10020, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10020)


Results:
Final pot: $10020
Hero showed Ts 8h
MP3 showed Kh Ac
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:12 AM   #4
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

where was this strategy...could be an intresting read....

I definatly agree with the AQ/KJ hands I almost always fold these to a raise.... unless they are soooted... but I hate those "trouble Hands" as doyle says.....

I will list the trouble hands for you guys here...... these hands are sooooo overrated to must average players but these hands should be treated with the upmost caution....

as I said I would never call a raise with them.... except under certain circumstances.....

Hands of Trouble are as follows........ A-Q/A-J/A-10/K-Q/K-J/K-10/Q-J/-Q-10/J-10/10-9/9-8

how many people are surprised at that selection...and how many of you would call a raise with one of those unsuited hands...

I was surprised at first... but it certainly opened my eyes when I discovered this fact...
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:21 AM   #5
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

Here you go...first part is very much directed at Stars rebuys though...
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Old 03-03-2006, 08:19 AM   #6
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

OK I'll post one final hand from the bubble

Hand 69

This is a very good example how not to play a pair of kings. Not on the bubble, not in france, not on the landing-grounds - not ever. Thank you sneaky slow-playing offspring of a fish married donk - guy!

The reason I don't shove the rest of my stack on the turn is that we are on the bubble and I guess only a better hand will call me so....

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1500/t3000
(Ante: t400)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t90824
UTG+1: t202838
MP1: t95818
MP2: t31504
CO: t1268
Button: t39844
SB: t15859
Hero: t18870

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with
3 folds, MP2 calls t3000, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t10700, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t3000, Hero calls t3000.

Turn: (t16700, 2 players)
Hero bets t6000, MP2 calls t6000.

River: (t28700, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Results:
Final pot: t28700
Hero showed 4d 7d
MP2 mucks Ks Kc
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

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Here you go...first part is very much directed at Stars rebuys though...
cheers boss Ill read that ....later
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

I quite like this strategy... its a bit looser than what im used to but ill give it a whirl....

Im normally quite loose in the MTTs early on anyway..... with the SC etc but I never considered the likes of
8-10o etc and/or protecting my blinds so much.....

And I quite like the lead the crap flop idea too.... Ill give it a whirl tonight on FT see if I can join you on Sat in round two
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Default Re: A couple of Gus-ish hands

I have done the exact same stratigy late in a champs freeroll. i had and called the bb in late position. People took me as weak so about 5 people bet hard enough to make me go all in. I ended up with two pair. They were dumbstruck by my call but I was just counting cards. I took down the main pot and some side pots. When asked why i called was it just a gut feeling? I replied ya it was a gut feeling.
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