AK, what should I do?

Deco · 10-02-2007, 08:53 AM

I'm at the start of a ten man SNG tourney so do not have firm information on any players.
The blinds are at 10/20
The BB has a stack off 1200
I have a stack off 3600
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I'm in the SB and I'm dealt:

UTG calls
I Raise to 60
The BB Calls
UTG folds

The pot is 140, the flop comes:

I bet 80
The BB raises to 160
What should I do?

stingray2906 · 10-02-2007, 10:13 AM

I call here and bet the pot on the turn !
You may be beat but I could see the BB raising here with a weak A or any pocket pair !

dsvw56 · 10-02-2007, 03:43 PM

You're kidding here right? I'd be very surprised if he has better than 10-7 here. I'm pushing in a heartbeat. A-10 or A-9 is about the only thing I fear here, but still not enough to fold. Get it all-in on the flop.

Untwisted · 10-02-2007, 06:58 PM

I would raise it up to 400 and if I get a call I change gears and let him lead on the turn. Now if he bets more than half the pot on a blank turn card I fold and tell myself that he/she had trips. If the bet is less I push all in and wait for a fold. Now if a scare card hits the turn I’m looking for a check anything but and I fold. Let’s say I get a check and the river brings a king and a raise to my bet, I think I would have to fold to that raise. I’m looking for another blank to feel real safe with my top pair top kicker.

Deco · 10-03-2007, 11:04 AM

I min Reraised this to see were my hand stood.
If I was reraised again I was gone, if not I would follow up with small bets on the turn and river.

My fear though was that a reraise would drive out weaker aces which were the most likely hand I was up against.

My Reraise was called and then when a balnk hit the turn I bet half the pot, they thought for a long time then folded.

Missed oppourtunity?

Deco · 10-03-2007, 11:08 AM

Also would a stronger reraise have had any benefits?
I don't like making raises this small but he weren't getting the odds with what was probably his 3outs, and a bigger reraise will have probably forced him out of the hand.

dsvw56 · 10-03-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Deco

and a bigger reraise will have probably forced him out of the hand.

Isn't that what you want here? TPTK isnt exactly a dynamite hand so you should be looking to end it as quickly as possible. I doubt this guy's folding an Ace here in a blind vs. blind situation. Hell, he's probably not folding an ace in any situation. Like I said, he probably had 10-7 at best here and was looking to make a move.

Deco · 10-03-2007, 05:16 PM

If he has 3outs am my min reraise is giving him 7to 1 odds
These aren't correct odds so his call would be a mistake and would hence make me money.

Him folding would be a correct decision I would cease making money on this hand.

lol my only worry is I don't feel comfortable reraising a mere pair

I fear my play will have drove out the Ax hands which I will normally have made more from if I called and bet the turn.
As Reraises are moves that should scare off most players from putting in any more money on a mere pair.

hmm actually I spose it is just a pair and i need to know were i stand, lol I can;t make my mind up

dsvw56 · 10-04-2007, 01:13 AM

Big Hand = Big Pot
Small Hand = Small Pot

You have anything BUT a big hand here. You need to be looking at the most effective way to win the pot while you still think you are ahead, not trying to get as much money in the pot as possible. I'm all for trying to get maximum value, but not with a hand as vulnerable as one pair. Btw, no way he has 3 outs here. He either has no direct outs (complete bluff) 2 outs (some kind of underpair) , 4 outs (KQ) 5 outs (the 10-7) or 7 outs (QJ). There's only like 3 players I've ever seen at your level that don't go broke with an ace on that flop here.

Oh, and if he does happen to have an Ace here (he didn't though), pushing IS going to get you max value as like I said, there's only a handfull of guys (if that) that don't go broke on this flop with the likes of A-6. The play of the UTG perfectly demonstrates the quality of play you're up against. The limp/fold from UTG to a single raise with a caller (getting 3.5:1 WITH position from UTG) isn't exactly what I would call a "typical" strong play.

Untwisted · 10-04-2007, 08:53 PM

Deco it seems to me you are too concerned in seeing the river or in other words fighting the good fight to get the win. Not every hand has to be a fight and once you become more comfortable the more hands you will win without a fight. Personally I rather spend 400 in hopes of ending the hand right there than say 600 to 800 calling to the river. Any hand that makes it to the river is venerable to a beat. A lot of players think like you and will call small bets to the river if you let them so why let them. My 400 bet could be trips, paired aces or a chase so you figure out what I have and isn’t that what this game is all about making the other player think?

Ds is right not many players will call with ace 6 but they will with ace 10. That’s why I say 400 and not the big push if that’s what ds meant by push.