AK, what should I do? - Page 2

lulo1210 · 10-05-2007, 05:49 AM

push him ALL-IN

Deco · 10-06-2007, 08:28 AM

Fair enough I see the point in a stronger reraise.

Going all in is over the top though.

Making a bet that is 6xlarger than the pot is never going to be profitable.
I'm only ever going to be called by hands that have me beat and will lose my stack the few times my opponent has hit two pair.

dsvw56 · 10-06-2007, 06:08 PM

I don't know why you're so insistent that you're not going to get a call with a lesser ace here. You give your opponents way too much credit.

At the levels you play at, here's a list of hands that would call you EASILY on this board that you have beat :

AQ
AJ
A8
A7
A6
KK
QQ
JJ
K10
Q10
J10
QJ

Deco · 10-06-2007, 06:26 PM

lol I can't see many people being that stupid.
A raise preflop followed by a bet and a reraise all in.
This is enough action to scare off all but the very worst fish, and so far I have no information indicating this guy is that mad.

dsvw56 · 10-09-2007, 02:58 AM

A) A pre-flop raise means nothing to people at these levels, which is why you constantly see people playing hands like K-10, QJ, and J-9 to pre-flop raises. No one cares that you raised, especially if they have an Ace in their hand. At you're average low stakes SnG table, I guarantee there's less than 3 people at the table that have ever folded an Ace pre-flop with less than an all-in in front of them.

B) For some reason, a vast majority of small stakes players see an all-in raise on the flop as weakness. They automatically assume that if someone moves all-in that they don't want a call and figure they must be bluffing.

C) Even if he does fold, so what? Like I said before; small hand, small pot. You're too concerned with extracting money and not about winning the hand.

D) This is a SnG, not a cash game. SnG players are far looser than cash game players. You're obviously not paying enough attention to hands you're not involved in to think a majority of players would not call with the hands I listed above.

E) Pushing all-in here saves you from having to make what could potentially be a very difficult decision on the turn or river.

F) You need to look no further than your post about the 888 open qualifier to see how incredibly horrible some players can be. You experienced it first hand in that tournament, yet you fail to see how bad most players are.

Deco · 10-09-2007, 04:29 PM

ok I'm convinced reraising a strong amount is what i should do, but I don't see why pushing all in is necessary.

A reraise of 500 or so would be morelikely called and when i go all in on the turn there pot commited so have got to call?

Hands that had me beat will take all my chips but the same is true with the all in.
Hands that are drawing to beat me weren't getting outs and if there still drawing they'll be getting better odds on the turn so are bound to call.

pot sized reraise followed by all in on the turn.....
what ya reckon?

Deco · 10-09-2007, 04:43 PM

oh and just to be hypothetical lets say the BB had a stack as deep as mine

then would u suggest minreraising the AK to see if am reraised so then I can presume am beat and fold before becoming pot commited.

The reason I no longer think its a good play here is because due to my opponents smaller stack if I reraised and was reraised back I'd prolly be pot committed