Deco

25c/50cNL ten man ring game
MP2 is Loose aggressive with a full buy in
MP3 is Loose with half a buy in
LP1 is Loose with a full buy in
I have a full buy in
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I'm in the BB and I'm dealt


MP1 Calls
MP2 Raises to $3
MP3 Calls
LP1 Calls
The SB folds
I Call
MP1 folds


The pot is $13 the flop comes:


I check
MP2 bets $5.50
MP3 calls
LP1 Folds

The pot is $24
Should I call and risk a flush draw killing me?
or Should I raise this barren flop?

dsvw56

Easy raise, most likely an all in as the pot would already be almost $30 after your call. Hopefully MP2 has an overpair and MP3 has some crap like A-9.

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Deco

yer actually lookin at this one it is kinda obvius, am lettin meself go I need hands were theres some debate.

Reckon the check raise was the right move?
I chose to do it due to how dry the flop was I didn't expect any callers if I bet at it.
Whilst I knew the aggressive player behind me would throw a bet out on a flop that low regardless of whether they hit.

Deco

Oh and I raised the pot and everyone folded.
I never seem to hit my sets on rainbow flops anymore

dsvw56

with a very aggressive player behind you, I would have opted for the check raise as well as it's less likely anyone has a solid piece of that board.

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Untwisted

I think with that flop and you being seen as tight player a small lead out bet would have been best with the two loose players still to act. One of the loose players would raise to find out where he is and hopefully the other calls as you would call in hopes of looking weak. Now on the turn you check hoping they didn’t catch larger trips and confirming your weakness. With any luck a garbage turn card hits the board and one of them feels good about they pair and you now drop the axe. Or you hope they have two pair and if you feel real lucky keep the axe behind your back and let them think they are doing the trapping.

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dsvw56

In a perfect world, maybe. Don't forget you would also have to dodge the diamond on the turn that's going to come almost 20% of the time. You may get a raise by leading out, but no way you get a raise and a call here. I'd be way more inclined to lead out on this flop if there was an ace or face card on it as then you could definitely count on a raise. Check raising gives you a great max value/limited risk ratio. By checking, you give the first player a chance to bet and the second player is 10 times more likely to call a single bet than a bet and a raise. This gives you a chance to bring out the big hammer and make them pay with a hefty raise and get the majority, if not all of your chips in the pot with what is sure to be the best hand at the time. If one of them does have a hand like A-9 or an overpair then it's time to dance. You may even get a chance to race against a hand like AdKd. I am not a fan of using the check-raise at all but this is a perfect situation to break it out.

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Untwisted

You will get no arguments from this take it down now player. I come from the old school of stack a few chips and don’t push away your stacks. I have used this play many times with this kind of flop with any thing from trips to a bluff and I will use it again. But only when I’m playing in a tight cycle in won’t work if your seen as loose. Try it you’ll like it.

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lulo1210

this is just an all-in re-raise

Macthompson

hey twisty is right ,the cheap raise will get a re-raise which u can call or raise again if its heads up

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