Too aggressive?

Deco · 09-17-2007, 05:51 AM

this is a low stakes MTT $5 200entrants, MTTs are a weak point of mine as I very rarely play them.
200 players top 20 are paid

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The Blinds are 250 and 500, I have 6000 chips. I have just been moved table I have no information on anybody. The button has a large stack of 13000

I'm in the BB and I'm dealt

It folds round to the button who raises to 1500
I move all in for 6000
The Button calls and shows

The buttons hits their ace and I go out in 40th place

Deco · 09-17-2007, 05:56 AM

Now I think in a normal tournament my play would be correct.
The raise from the button could have been done with a weak hand and my M is 8 I'm looking to get my money in.

In an MTT of this low stakes I had noticed nobody blind steals, should I have presumed that this unknown player also does not blind steal and folded as I am either racing or a big dog.
Calling and pushing in on a dry flop is also another possible option here.

Let me know what you reckon kiddas

Untwisted · 09-17-2007, 05:51 PM

First of all never tangle with the big stack in a MTT they have that stack and the luck from plays just like one you shared with us. Oh blind stealing goes on all the time you have to know who and when and that comes with time at a table. In MTT you can’t hope to play your Cash table strategy and think you will go far. Your range of starting hands is much larger than a cash game. Are you sure this is what you want to play? I wouldn’t come into your end of the pool and play with the piranha why do you want to swim with the sharks? LOL

dsvw56 · 09-17-2007, 07:36 PM

I dunno, seems like a pretty easy fold in this situation to me . . .

Deco · 09-19-2007, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untwisted

In MTT you can’t hope to play your Cash table strategy and think you will go far. Your range of starting hands is much larger than a cash game. Are you sure this is what you want to play? I wouldn’t come into your end of the pool and play with the piranha why do you want to swim with the sharks? LOL

lol trust me that certainly isn't cash game strategy.
Doing this with an M of 65+ within a cash game would obviously be stupid.
Here I'm on an M of 8, I need to play aggressive, the only condition I think affects this play is the lack of blind stealing occurring at these tables.

33 against a blind stealer with an M of 8 would be an easy all in.
Against a player that only raises for value its a definite fold even on a low M
Against an unknown player perhaps I should have presumed they were raising for value as it is a low stake MTT

lulo1210 · 10-05-2007, 05:53 AM

why push here...folding would have been the best decision...

stingray2906 · 10-05-2007, 09:29 AM

I think fold was the only play against a big stack that you don't know .
Blind stealing happens at low stakes MTT but they have been known to call with marginal hands .
So you could have been taken out by a weak A .

Deco · 10-06-2007, 05:02 AM

Folding seems to be the general consensus.
Why?

I was deciding between calling or reraising.
I certainly wouldn't fold a pocketpair against a button raise normally.

I was thinking between reraising or calling to see a low flop I can bet at, or check folding when a dangerous flop hits.

Although I wouldn't want to call when I have an M this low.

lulo1210 · 10-06-2007, 10:01 AM

re-raising is out of question...in this situation u just cant do this...big stack, position!!!
the call wouldnt being as bad as it seems but in poker we need to avoid marginal situations...ur only hope was hittin a set and risking about 20% of your stack out of position for the hope the get lucky its a marginal situation

Deco · 10-06-2007, 10:54 AM

Going all in means the positional advantage is canceled out, position doesnt matter when your both all in.

Also my only hope weren't to hit a set, believe it or not my hand was a marginal favourite here.