PapaHun

I just played a HORSE tournament today. I feel very at home in all the games but RAZZ. Still I did quite well - playing it like it were 7stud h/l without the high basically. But once it got down to shorthanded and finally heads-up at the final table I started to choke. RAZZ was also the game where I lost my 4:! chiplead HU and eventually got beat

Heads up you basically gotta see the hand through quite a ways - since you really cant tell much from the board unless you are clearly beat.

Does anyone have a more insightful strategy tip or link regarding RAZZ and specifically short-handed RAZZ?

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dsvw56

hey, what does the E stand for in HORSE?

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ICBM

Here's the only Razz info I ever saved mate - it was one of them Full Tilt strategy e-maily things

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Jennifer Harman
March 28, 2005

The rules:

For those of you who aren't familiar with Razz, it is a game played like 7-card stud. The twist is that in Razz, the worst hand wins. Straights and flushes don't count for anything, but pairs are bad. Aces are always low cards. A five-high (or wheel -- remember that straights don't count against you) is the worst -- or I should say the best -- possible hand for this game. A-2-3-4-5.

Starting hands:

When playing this game, it's important that you start with 3 little cards. You shouldn't play with any card bigger than an eight in your hand. But there are two exceptions to this rule.

1. You have a nine showing when the hand is dealt, everyone else's up card is bigger than a nine, and you have two low cards in the hole. In this case, you have the best starting hand.

2. You are in steal position with a baby showing, and the remaining player (or even the remaining two players) has a big card showing. You can often raise in this spot to steal the antes regardless of what your hole cards are. If somearticle calls, you hope that their next card (fourth street) is a big card and yours is a baby. If your opponent catches a baby and you catch big, you should let it go. There's no point in continuing with the bluff.

Tracking cards:

Are your cards dead? This is another important thing to know when playing Razz. What do I mean by 'dead card'? A dead card is a card that is no longer in the deck. You know this because you have seen it in someone else's hand. Keeping track of the dead cards allows you to know how many of the remaining cards can hurt you, and how many will improve your hand. For example: your first three cards are 2-5-8. There are seven other players in the game, and their upcards are: 2, 5, 8, 8, 2, 7, J. Remember that pairs are bad in Razz. Fortunately, many of the cards that will pair you are in other players' hands, or 'dead'. Now suppose your opponent is holding 7-3-A. He needs a lot of the cards that are on the board (dead) to make his hand. The cards you need to make your hand are still available. In this situation, you are a little more than a 56% favorite. By tracking cards, you can more accurately make decisions based on your real equity at any given time.

ICBM

I've only played razz a few times myself mate so that's the best I can do for you - never played it heads-up. I think I'm ok at it on a pretty full table cos I play alot of 7 stud so I'm used to tracking the cards and working out my odds quickly but against an aggressive player short-handed I'd probably struggle. I guess it's just a case of experience mate - the more you play the more you'll pick up. I did a quick internet search and there's next to nothing about razz never mind short handed so........

PapaHun

Thanks anyway.

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Macthompson

Tks
I never played this game before but always willing to learn a new cardgame

this remins me of me & my friends playing Crib that way where the best hand is 1 and worst is 29
its fun with all the 5's in someones crib
lol

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cydott

thanks for the info. I never played Razz will have to try it


cydott

PistolPolly

Now this game sounds like it's right up my alley. I get some pretty bad hands and think I could really make my mark in the poker world with this game.

If I only knew the rules. LOL. Finding information about how to play and strategy is hard to find for this particular game. If anyone has any concise info they would like to share please do.

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tomonbass

Papa Does Super System Volume 1 have a Razz section I think it does could be worth borrowing it from someone or adding it to your collection

Im pretty sure I noticed a razz section when I flicked through it in the Book store

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Rose22

Yes it does. I couldn't tell you if it's any good or not. I don't even know what razz is so I just skipped passed that chapter.